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Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 28177	Posted - 2015.12.21 11:29:44 - [1] - Quote Gregor Parud wrote: Newbies are not helped with skill points, they are not helped with isk, they're not helped with hand holding. They're helped by giving them a proper tutorial that explains stuff properly, a long one, where this all is explained. And beyond that they're help with "stop being a giant massive pussy" attitude from both other players as the game. Sink or swim. And they'd be helped with if the game didn't start with mining and running missions... I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 28193	Posted - 2015.12.21 13:56:20 - [2] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: just forget about sp and enjoy learning the game Exactly. Some people are so stuck in believing their egos matter, it's ruining the game for them. Waahwaaah can't compete, too slow, too hard, waahwaah If people weren't such babies nowadays we wouldn't have this mess. I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 28205	Posted - 2015.12.21 14:28:22 - [3] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: Solecist Project wrote: Lan Wang wrote: just forget about sp and enjoy learning the game Exactly. Some people are so stuck in believing their egos matter, it's ruining the game for them. Waahwaaah can't compete, too slow, too hard, waahwaah If people weren't such babies nowadays we wouldn't have this mess. i think these new players seem to think that they should be able to kill the 10+ year old player on day 1, if they cant then its inbalanced, thats not how this works, thats not how any of this works Self esteem issues. People raised and educated by marketing and neuroscience. I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 28228	Posted - 2015.12.21 16:03:42 - [4] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: Lan Wang wrote: i wasn't shown anything pvp related in tutorials (the new system may have changed), nothing about fitting ships, what scrams and points do, counter measures, different space and what sort of precautions you should take when traveling there. I was use to the mmo grind and would avoid it by using rl money as my income and cant remember being shown anything other than missions and mining Its an issue further exacerbated by the belief of many players that newbies must be protected from experiencing PVP. Literally people thing newbies should be sheltered from the content that is the primary selling point of the game. Fortunately CCPs analytics have demonstrated pretty strongly that newbies exploding doesn't instantaneously cause them to freak out and quit the game forever (presumably because they are grown adults, not developmentally challenge children as some players would have you believe). Best part is that the truth is that sheltered and protected children suck at life later on ... ... and never learned to think for themselves or protect themselves. Perfect slaves to authority. That no one wonders how humanity got that far without all the safety is beyond me. And it o ly gets worse, with the nature hating PC crowd getting older... I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 28244	Posted - 2015.12.21 16:15:34 - [5] - Quote Tristan Agion wrote: One of the many reasons I'm so looking forward to the skill packets is this: Anybody who then writes cookie cutter comments about how SP do not matter, since one can enjoy EVE just the same in a T1 frigate, and yadda, yadda, yadda - they will then be able to strip those pointless SPs of their character and give them to me... Till then I will have to play skill queue online, an activity just slightly less inspiring than filling in a tax form while getting a root canal. And every single smugvet admonishing newbies on how unimportant SPs are will be playing skill queue online along with me, of course, as they have done for many a year. For they have already trained Hypocrisy V. And you will still suck at this game ... ... because your issue is a cognitive one. I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 28281	Posted - 2015.12.22 09:44:09 - [6] - Quote Silly, tbh. Wasting days to convince some irrelevant people ... ... of how wrong they are. They're not even worth the time. If you subbed an alt with cash instead ... ... then it'd be more worthwhile. I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 28283	Posted - 2015.12.22 13:28:15 - [7] - Quote Tristan ... do you ever log on and undock at all? I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 28285	Posted - 2015.12.22 14:14:28 - [8] - Quote Dibz wrote: Scipio Artelius wrote: As a concrete example, here are two of my characters: http://puu.sh/m4zIm/6078e33c2a.jpg Oh hi there You two would make a great couple ... ... but he's shy, so you better make the first step. ;) I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 28286	Posted - 2015.12.22 14:38:32 - [9] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: Also, it's controversial, but I wouldn't mind at all if CCP created an "Advanced PACK" option where you pay $60 (as for a new game in a box), for an already-activated new account with, literally, ALL skills plugged into your head and trained to level 3, and 15 million ISK so you can afford the market tax required for trading a PLEX (if you want to buy one). I think the price would be fair, since it's several hundred million ISK worth of skills to buy, and, as discussed earlier, a few months of training, and it would make CCP some money and possibly attract some new players. But mostly, I wouldn't mind because EVE really is about attitude, and not about skills. No use, though, because someone will come and demand more. Just like with security. It's never enough, there'll always come an even more self entitled clown. It's never enough. Never. I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 28286	Posted - 2015.12.22 14:50:46 - [10] - Quote Like, seriously, noobs got this massive SP boost that allows them so much more right off the bat ... ... and there are still people who complain it's not enough. These people don't belong here. Period! At some point a line has to be drawn. CCP made a choice and boosted base SP in an actually sensible way, opening up a lot more, but hey I WANT TO DO WHAT I WANT ! And then he'll leave, because he sucks at it.IT'S NOT HOW I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE!! The whole game changes for some clowns who won't stay long ... ... or who constantly demand and who will NEVER ... ... NEVER EVER ... ... stop behaving like this ! I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)

Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 28286	Posted - 2015.12.22 15:00:23 - [11] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: Yeah, but we can point to it and demand silence. SWTOR did offer "level 60 character" with one of their expansions (this is not max level, it's just skipping past the newbie levels, and no extra stuff like equivalent gear or standings or anything like that), and I think WoW did it too, so I guess it's a thing in the MMO world. I wouldn't mind if CCP did it; the skills are pre-assigned, and it really is only a couple months of training. For new accounts only, one character only. And level 3 mastery isn't "win" by any definition of the word, it's just a bit of a jump start. Make the newbies feel better about being able to "catch up", they're always so worried about that. $60. See "they will demand more, b3cause it's never enough". And you won't silence them. They will post and someone will respond. There is no pointing and silencing. That's not how it works. Never has, never will. Else we'd not see the same topics rehashed over and over, even though there is nothing new to say about it and every ... ... EVERY question/comment has a googleable response already! I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 28287	Posted - 2015.12.22 15:08:13 - [12] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: EDIT: The game changes no matter what, Sol. Newbies, CCP's vision / whims, lack of newbies, our exploits... Trying to keep the game frozen is pointless. So, I figure, why not. Progress != giving in to people who feel entitled to play this game although they hate it. I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 28289	Posted - 2015.12.22 15:51:00 - [13] - Quote Thanks, all I needed to know. I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 28300	Posted - 2015.12.23 02:43:46 - [14] - Quote Vivias Xelnoa wrote: Primary This Rifter wrote: Yeah, it's tough for new players to catch up. It's supposed to be. Deal with it. I don't get this attitude. In any other MMO I can grind my ass off and put in the time to be at the top with other folks but here there is a glass ceiling and folks seem to like that.. I really don't get it. I can answer that. What your people are doing is grinding for self esteem. Then, when they all have equally long schlongs (reached max level) ... ... they can fight "fair fights" to determine who is the more skilled one. That's all there is to it. Of course we have schlongs in EVE as well ... ... but our game isn't made to cater to them. Our game doesn't manipulate people into a contest about the size of our ego/schlong/wallet. Your games do. Umar Umarhabib > The bad thing is, every time I die with a juicy Deadspace set up, it becomes harder to fly solo.
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 28357	Posted - 2015.12.23 13:46:30 - [15] - Quote What really bothers me about this, is ... ... that there are people out there who demand a mechanic ... ... which sole purpose is it to keep them hooked. It's neuroscience. People are being enslaved by rewards. Never should such people get to dictate changes in EVE. It's a nightmare for humanity that marketing manipulates people so much ... ... they even demand more of this manipulation. Horror... Umar Umarhabib > The bad thing is, every time I die with a juicy Deadspace set up, it becomes harder to fly solo.
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 28397	Posted - 2015.12.23 16:31:12 - [16] - Quote Tristan Agion wrote: Gregor Parud wrote: Perhaps you need to realise that you'er playing the wrong game and choose easiest option: leave. It's not like EVE will change overnight so you'll be miserable for a very long time, just doesn't make any sense. Don't like it? leave. Bye! If CCP is smart enough to ignore the sulking bittervets and introduces skill packets sometime next spring, then my main issue with the game will have been resolved (or at least much ameliorated). I think I can wait that long. But your kind and compassionate advice is much appreciated nevertheless. Assuming you'll still be playing by then ... Umar Umarhabib > The bad thing is, every time I die with a juicy Deadspace set up, it becomes harder to fly solo.
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 28406	Posted - 2015.12.23 17:34:03 - [17] - Quote Tippia... shouldn't you update your skill plan? Nowadays new players get a lot of skills that save them quite a bit of time ... Umar Umarhabib > The bad thing is, every time I die with a juicy Deadspace set up, it becomes harder to fly solo.
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 28487	Posted - 2015.12.24 10:03:55 - [18] - Quote Tristan Agion wrote: Teckos Pech wrote: Oh so you don't want to grind, even for ISK? You just want everything handed to you on a silver platter? So it's strictly binary to you, either I'm a fanatical grinder or a lazy grind-avoider? Look, I'm playing a computer game for fun here. The need to grind can be part of the challenge and competition that makes this game fun to me - within limits. But I do have a life, and for that matter, a real job earning real money. I do not switch on EVE thinking "Yes, finally I get to slave my time away." Not that I'm saying that that is wrong if that happens to be your deal. You do whatever you want with your game time... No. You get to do whatever you want ... ... as long as you can make sure you can do so. No one gets to do what he wants unless others let him ... ... or he can make sure others don't stop him. Umar Umarhabib > The bad thing is, every time I die with a juicy Deadspace set up, it becomes harder to fly solo.

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